Comments on: Zinc – A love hate relationship http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/ Code & Technology Aficionado - Come for the Flash, stay for more! Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:32:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Andreas http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-67006 Andreas Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:29:18 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-67006 Zinc 3 is absolutely horrible. 2.5 was bad, but 3 is so much worse. Do not buy Zinc! Zinc 3 is absolutely horrible. 2.5 was bad, but 3 is so much worse. Do not buy Zinc!

]]> By: Duke http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-64047 Duke Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:05:11 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-64047 Working for a company that makes Flash based desktop apps regularly, until recently i was using a sort of self made version of Zinc/Northcode, we had some issues, that seemed small at first, but got bigger over time, and we decided to try out comercial products that did about the same thing as our self made exe. As you can imagine, we where looking for a very wide array of capabilities, as we did'nt have any limitations until this point. It took me about 1 week to convert our Flash project to use Zink, only to come to the conclusion that the applications resource needs went up by 50%, and it keeps crashing any time we tryed to do something "interesting". After this failed attempt I tried out SWF Studio by Northcode, not only the transition was much more easy, the results where much better. The best part was that we found alternatives to all functions we use to have with our own projector. So basically, there is not even grounds for comparison between the two. Working for a company that makes Flash based desktop apps regularly, until recently i was using a sort of self made version of Zinc/Northcode, we had some issues, that seemed small at first, but got bigger over time, and we decided to try out comercial products that did about the same thing as our self made exe. As you can imagine, we where looking for a very wide array of capabilities, as we did’nt have any limitations until this point. It took me about 1 week to convert our Flash project to use Zink, only to come to the conclusion that the applications resource needs went up by 50%, and it keeps crashing any time we tryed to do something “interesting”. After this failed attempt I tried out SWF Studio by Northcode, not only the transition was much more easy, the results where much better. The best part was that we found alternatives to all functions we use to have with our own projector. So basically, there is not even grounds for comparison between the two.

]]> By: Tiago http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62696 Tiago Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:48:01 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62696 Dunlavy: Thanks for your input and advice to new users. Dunlavy: Thanks for your input and advice to new users.

]]> By: Dunlavy http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62669 Dunlavy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:32:32 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62669 I used to be a Zinc user but made the switch to SWF Studio. I think it's a good move and I won't look back. http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/2009/12/06/mdm-stick-their-head-in-the-sand/ There's another post. I was present during that whole thread, too. Gambini, their head Zinc developer, really lost his cool in a defensive, unprofessional rant that did little to address the concerns of his customers (rather, he berated them) or the direction of the Zinc 3.0 application. Zinc 2.5 users SHOULD NOT switch to Zinc 3.0. Instead, they should be incensed that Zinc 3.0 even exists. They were sold ½ an app, promised the moon, then told to upgrade to ½ an app when 3.0 came out. I used to be a Zinc user but made the switch to SWF Studio. I think it’s a good move and I won’t look back.

http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/2009/12/06/mdm-stick-their-head-in-the-sand/

There’s another post. I was present during that whole thread, too. Gambini, their head Zinc developer, really lost his cool in a defensive, unprofessional rant that did little to address the concerns of his customers (rather, he berated them) or the direction of the Zinc 3.0 application.

Zinc 2.5 users SHOULD NOT switch to Zinc 3.0. Instead, they should be incensed that Zinc 3.0 even exists. They were sold ½ an app, promised the moon, then told to upgrade to ½ an app when 3.0 came out.

]]> By: Tiago http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62657 Tiago Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:17:22 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62657 Derek, thanks for pointing it out to a really good case of bad customer support. Northcode: :o) nice move there, I'm definately going to try swfstudio out, if I'm happy with it I let it know :) Derek, thanks for pointing it out to a really good case of bad customer support.

Northcode: :o ) nice move there, I’m definately going to try swfstudio out, if I’m happy with it I let it know :)

]]> By: Northcode http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62636 Northcode Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:59:35 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62636 Send a copy of your Zinc registration email to support@northcode.com and we'll send you a coupon code that will give you a discount of $75 off a license for SWF Studio V3 Professional. Put "Zinc Sucks" in the subject line of your email :) This offer is open to any Zinc user. Tell your friends! Please note that SWF Studio is Windows only. Send a copy of your Zinc registration email to support@northcode.com and we’ll send you a coupon code that will give you a discount of $75 off a license for SWF Studio V3 Professional. Put “Zinc Sucks” in the subject line of your email :) This offer is open to any Zinc user. Tell your friends! Please note that SWF Studio is Windows only.

]]> By: Derek Vadneau http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62631 Derek Vadneau Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:31:38 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62631 You might want to check this out: http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/2009/12/05/switching-from-zinc-to-swf-studio/ Or maybe just subscribe to the RSS - I think there'll be more... http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/feed/ You might want to check this out:
http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/2009/12/05/switching-from-zinc-to-swf-studio/

Or maybe just subscribe to the RSS – I think there’ll be more…
http://www.gareth-jones.co.uk/feed/

]]> By: Tiago http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62573 Tiago Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:31:52 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62573 Thanks david, will have a look at swfstudio. Thanks david, will have a look at swfstudio.

]]> By: daviddoull http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62523 daviddoull Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:46:58 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62523 Have you tried swf studio by northcode.com I haven't used it for screensavers but I know it has that functionality. And it does everything else that zinc does except unlike zinc it actually works. I purchased both swf studio and zinc - I was excited by the fact that zinc does mac versions but it's so unstable and unreliable that it's completely useless - probably the worst software I have ever bought. Swf studio is outstanding for making exe's Have you tried swf studio by northcode.com I haven’t used it for screensavers but I know it has that functionality. And it does everything else that zinc does except unlike zinc it actually works. I purchased both swf studio and zinc – I was excited by the fact that zinc does mac versions but it’s so unstable and unreliable that it’s completely useless – probably the worst software I have ever bought. Swf studio is outstanding for making exe’s

]]> By: Zinc - Saving images | Tiago's Weblog http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62461 Zinc - Saving images | Tiago's Weblog Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:48:08 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62461 [...] weird situation, it's useful, it would be even more useful if they would do their job right, but I already wrote about it here. So let's leave this discussion out of [...] [...] weird situation, it's useful, it would be even more useful if they would do their job right, but I already wrote about it here. So let's leave this discussion out of [...]

]]> By: Tiago http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62417 Tiago Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:09:11 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62417 Ali: The only reason I see when to use Zinc, is when you want to gain access to the filesystem in an easy matter. Paul: Let me know what your experience was, maybe you might get a complete other result then I did, imo results with zinc are always unexpectable ;) hebchop: absolutely, I really hope that instantstorm comes up with a few features that could beat zinc, specially like I mentioned a stable API. Ali:
The only reason I see when to use Zinc, is when you want to gain access to the filesystem in an easy matter.

Paul:
Let me know what your experience was, maybe you might get a complete other result then I did, imo results with zinc are always unexpectable ;)

hebchop:
absolutely, I really hope that instantstorm comes up with a few features that could beat zinc, specially like I mentioned a stable API.

]]> By: hebchop http://blog.six4rty.ch/2009/11/29/zinc-a-love-hate-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-62413 hebchop Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:32:21 +0000 http://blog.six4rty.ch/?p=610#comment-62413 The last time I tried 3.0 it was advertising features that just didn't work. I'd love to see some healthy competition in this space. The last time I tried 3.0 it was advertising features that just didn’t work. I’d love to see some healthy competition in this space.

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